how to make skittle more fun

[koningstel]

Essential Information

• Minecraft Username: koningstel
• Category: the server
• Urgency: the faster the better

Detailed Information

• Description:
• Skittle at the moment is losing more players then new players joining that is a fact if it goes on like this the server will be dead soon. the main thing why this is happening (I think) is is because it got boring there hasn't been any big update or new things added to the server all the new minecraft updates aren't being added to skittle which I understand because they are unstable to run a server on but all the new items aren't added into the game as well, in my opinion some of the new items can be added to adminshop to help the builders on the server.
• also people are quitting because there is no good way for making money for them most aren't very rich and one of the main ways at the moment to make money is selling builds etc and for that u first need money to build something so they have a low chance of making good money while the real rich players have almost unlimited resources to make money I don't say the rich people should have money taken from them to make it more fair but in my opinion having more ways to make money on the server that are also accesable to players with 0 money or less money would work this would bring back joy to players with less money because then they finally have a chance as well in the economy, giving casinos advertising rights back but limited is also a way to improve the economy because with that there is a new way for earning money again as well and to be honest the casinolist is a masive faillure and not a good alternative for casino owners who basically lost their income without any warning because some players were abusing their casinos with scamming etc. if casinos are gonna be a thing again as well there is another way for people to earn money again which would basically improve the economy as well as long as people don't abuse their casino for scamming people.
• another way to improve the server is to listen more to the community because the community sometimes comes with good ideas too but they are mostly ignored or just forgotten a way to improve this is to have or having the staff team more involved in the community or by having a meeting once every 2 weeks for example with some players in which they can discuss ideas they have for the server the players involved in this should be a wide variety of the community for example a builder, someone rich and someone poor this will give a good reflection of the community and then the ideas made will be the best for the biggest part of players and not just for one part of the community.
• something that would help too is by having the rules stated clearly and the punishment belonging to the rule as well because now every staff member gives their own punishment depending on the situation and there is a lot of difference between the punishments of difference staff members for example some staff members don't care if they are disrespected and some give you a ban that is why there needs to be a clear punishment for every rule so players know what they can get if they break a rule.
• my last issue is that suggestions made on the forums are getting closed down quickly without seeing how the community likes the idea for example the adminshop fix suggestion made around a week ago staff isn't open minded about sugegstions and they stick to their ideas how skittle once was but skittle isn't like how it was anymore, there were some players who agreed with it and they thought it was a great idea but it got closed down without giving the guy that made the suggestion (in this case it was me) a chance to explain what he wants with it and what the point was of the suggestion
• in my opinion with all the things I stated above the server should improve a lot and as a result there will be hopefully less players quitting which would make the server alive again
• thanks in advance koningstel!

 

[Jlh_YT]

I know this thread will probs get locked pretty fast so I am gonna put my opinion here just quickly.

The issue isn't that the server isn't being update but yet the small things that have gone out of date as more updates come out.
e.g. enderpearls in the pvp crate eventhough if you use them in pvp you are welcomed with a punishment.

As well as this yes; the eco is dying and even-though the rich players do have a small part to play in this; I agree with Kong that as a new player even making 100k in a day is very tricky. (I know because on one of my secret alts I tried for a week and barely made 60k). A fox for this would be more events and using the discord #giveaway channel for weekley giveaways would also be a good way to put money back into the eco. (if you gave away 100mil every week that is only 5.2billion a year but would help the eco). As a bonus I won't enter them.

overall; don't add new updates yet but instead fix the old ones and see from a players POV why we want stuff like sea lanterns in admin shop etc...

- Joshua

(can't do my fancy colours I am on mobile rn)

 

[koningstel]

I agree the giveaway part would be a nice way to boost the economy what also would be good for new players is to have the money u start with which is 10k be increased to 25k and the rewards for voting to be increased from 5k+voting key to maybe something like 15k+voting key so the new players also have a better way to make money and they will vote for the server more

 

[Jlh_YT]

I agree the giveaway part would be a nice way to boost the economy what also would be good for new players is to have the money u start with which is 10k be increased to 25k and the rewards for voting to be increased from 5k+voting key to maybe something like 15k+voting key so the new players also have a better way to make money and they will vote for the server more

I personally feel like lets start with small steps Kong; nobody really votes anymore so it would be pointless raising the ammount there; the giveaways would allow the eco to recover faster as well as actually get the discord growing again.
No point adding everything at once just for the eco to crash again.

 

[Aesteroth]

Firstly let me put this point forward that I don't intend any disrespect to you for any ideas put forward that are shot down, I’ll put reasoning as best as i can for doing so.

As a member of the community that constantly says "the server is dying" do you think that is helping anything? if a new player joins the server and the first thing they hear on the server is a ranked player say "the server is dying" do you think they'll stay around long? so firstly, stop saying the server is dying, the server isn't dying, the same players are coming on the server that always have done so, minus those that have been banned, and minus those that have been joining other servers created by our players that have cropped up and absorbed/poached some of our players, with comments like "this server is dying" then on discord they say come to our server, it's better, i can name a couple that have done this and have continued to do so.

" in my opinion some of the new items can be added to adminshop“ if you have an understanding of the issue, then you will understand that we can't pick up items post 1.12.2 and integrate those into the server since the server is on 1.12.2.

There are and have always been ways for people to make money on the server, the issue with people losing their money has and has always been down to people making poor decisions with their money, in this case it was people spening their money on casino's and coin flips.

When someone doesn't have much money and the gamble it away then that's an issue for the player. they had money and they gambled it away. the more money you have the easier it is to make money in a system like a coin flip. and casinos are always designed to make money because that is the nature of a casino. If you want to "save" the players from spending their money then we need to remove casino's and coinflips. There isn't any improvement that can be made without addressing that issue first. So, your other points about giving Casino's advertising rights back.... never happening, as one of the causes of players financial instability casinos won't be able to advertise their casino's in chat. - the issue with casino's hasn't been with players scamming players at all, so i don't know where you came up with that idea, it's that the players choose to play the game with poor odds. as long as the odds are listed it's not a scam as the player makes an informed decision to play the game - thus "poor decisions".

For listening to the community, - this has to be broken down in to subsections:

1. what staff can do.
2. what managers can do
3. what can actually be done by staff.

To answer 1 - staff can listen to the players and talk to the players about what would be good for the server - as has been happening all along.
To answer 2 - managers can listen to the ideas put forward from the staff after taking the information in from the players - we still do this.
To answer 3 - Not much as staff/management in general don't make the large-scale changes to the server, these are done by the owner and his builders.

The staff are there to assist the players when the players have issues. The staff aren't there to unnecessarily interact with the players, even though i know many of the staff do since they were picked from the player base. It is not up to the staff to arrange meetings with players in order to decide the way forward for the server, that's a decision for the owner and the owner alone to make, we don't have any way in the matter.

The rules are stated in the rules section of the forum and the punishments are listed there ranging from minor to maximum depending on the situation. And as has been stated many times in the past, we don't discuss individuals punishments to anyone other than the player involved.

"some staff members don't care if they are disrespected and some give you a ban" - So?... that doesn't mean you can disrespect staff. The punishment would be a ban, but just because some staff may not give you a ban, doesn't mean that all those that did receive a ban for disrespecting staff should have theirs removed. The rules are there, they are visible, if you break the rules you are punished, that's the way it works.


"my last issue is that suggestions made on the forums are getting closed down quickly without seeing how the community likes the idea for example the adminshop fix suggestion made around a week ago staff isn't open minded about sugegstions and they stick to their ideas how skittle once was but skittle isn't like how it was anymore" - as I described above, items post 1.12.2 can't be added in, as such - the only items that could be added in are items that are in 1.12.2 but aren't currently available to players for example the shulker box. I am a fan of the shulker box, however with personal enderchests and playervaults and warps etc, there is no need for a shulker. and for anyone that has done any research at all into any exploits on minecraft servers you can see that virtually all of them can be made 1000 times worse when shlulkers are available on the server. As most players are already aware - the shulkers that are currently on the server weren't supposed to be there, and was a streamer that brought them our of creative and put them on the server. in the space of a few months, the few that had been on the server doubled due to players using various exploits that were eventually patched, so now there are a number of them of which are mostly in museums because as i said, most players don't need them due to warps and enderchests and playervaults etc.

If a suggestion is made that carries no traction due to it not being possible to implement then i would prefer it to be closed off. there is no benefit to be made out of keeping it open and for cancerous player responses to be left in the comments.

"in my opinion with all the things I stated above the server should improve a lot and as a result there will be hopefully less players quitting which would make the server alive again" - I’ll hand it to you that you have put some thought into what would be good for the server, (in your opinion). In reality - as before i have mentioned that i mean no disrespect - but we are limited in what actions we can make. for example the changes that were made in PvP were put in place with 2 reasons in mind. 1 it informs the players as to who is in god and who isn't in god so they know who to look out for. Secondly the players in god can't pick up items or shoot arrows at players that are in PvP therefore stopping them from interfering. In my mind that is a win/win. Staff will no longer need to step in to try to decide who did what and hand out a heavy punishment depending on what was done, the punishment is a simple send to spawn. This allows players to get on with their game without as much oversight as the amount of time resolving those issues with players stealing items resulted in players needing to create forum accounts and upload evidence then for the evidence to be seen and agreed on by the staff and then the player is punished. So doing it this way is fairer for the staff and the players. Changes like this are changes that can be made. - So...... if you can stop with the "server is dying" rhetoric - because surely you must know that it doesn't help..., come up with more ideas on things that players genuinely want and pass those to the staff just as you pointed me to this forum post earlier. that would be a help. I already have a list of things that i have been and currently are working on, so i can't divulge any of those until they are finished implementing, just as i had done with the PvP changes that were made last month.

Aesteroth

 

[Jlh_YT]

This is gonna be my last message on this thread and Aesteroth I thank you for taking the time to write a full response explaining more in depth.

The casino update was never explained to players in this way; AngelWholf simply said 'too many scamming casinos' which with this information off you makes the casino update more understandable. Thank you.

As for "the server is dying" chats a lot of players have started this for a few reasons. 1. they have only just figured out the bots and that all the 'players' aren't real which from players who have never owned their own server is understandable to why they feel adding bots means the server is trying to hide it is dying eventhough this has always been a thing. 2. numbers have gone down since the hype died about the hack ofc and the banned players who were allowed to stay are coming back with none of their orginial squad which in turn yes more people latley have been spreading "the server is dying" - that is a side affect of everyone coming back and leaving within the same week just to see the affects to the hack.

I agree with you for most of your points and would like to add; the new events AngelWholf have been doing have been going down well with the players. They do like when they see the player connecting with staff side of him which I understand can't always be done but I am glad to see that more latley.

I look forward to see what you have in store for 2021.

- Joshua

 

[Meme4ord]

I know this is out of your control but I think the best thing for the server right now would be to advertise. As far as I know there hasn’t been any sort of advertisement for the server since doni, skeppy and shotgun. The players who actually find the server is extremely decreased from those days because of this lack of advertising. Active daily players during those days was mid 300 through 400 and now it’s around 100 (from what I’ve heard). I think you should bring this up to Steven because from a financial standpoint as well this will bring more money overall.

 

[Jlh_YT]

I know this is out of your control but I think the best thing for the server right now would be to advertise. As far as I know there hasn’t been any sort of advertisement for the server since doni, skeppy and shotgun. The players who actually find the server is extremely decreased from those days because of this lack of advertising. Active daily players during those days was mid 300 through 400 and now it’s around 100 (from what I’ve heard). I think you should bring this up to Steven because from a financial standpoint as well this will bring more money overall.

I agree however that is up to Steven and is the literal reason Steven himself said DatPixle died

 

[koningstel]

to be honest the best way for advertising and bringing new players to the server is to have some youtubers playing here again because the viewers of course wanna check out the server as well and for steven this is also good because the more players the more ranks bought and the more money for him

 

[zacken05]

This is gonna be my last message on this thread and Aesteroth I thank you for taking the time to write a full response explaining more in depth.

The casino update was never explained to players in this way; AngelWholf simply said 'too many scamming casinos' which with this information off you makes the casino update more understandable. Thank you.

As for "the server is dying" chats a lot of players have started this for a few reasons. 1. they have only just figured out the bots and that all the 'players' aren't real which from players who have never owned their own server is understandable to why they feel adding bots means the server is trying to hide it is dying eventhough this has always been a thing. 2. numbers have gone down since the hype died about the hack ofc and the banned players who were allowed to stay are coming back with none of their orginial squad which in turn yes more people latley have been spreading "the server is dying" - that is a side affect of everyone coming back and leaving within the same week just to see the affects to the hack.

I agree with you for most of your points and would like to add; the new events AngelWholf have been doing have been going down well with the players. They do like when they see the player connecting with staff side of him which I understand can't always be done but I am glad to see that more latley.

I look forward to see what you have in store for 2021.

- Joshua

If it's the case, that many casinos are scamming, bring back the rule that you have to verify your casino before advertising it.

 

[Jlh_YT]

If it's the case, that many casinos are scamming, bring back the rule that you have to verify your casino before advertising it.

Please don't forget to read what Aesteroth put as it isn't just the scamming; that was just what we was all told as players before now.